BY ROBERT GERRY AND STEVE GUGLIELMO
When sales aren’t growing, the first instinct is usually to look at the sales team. Are they making enough calls? Bringing in new business? Doing what they’re supposed to be doing?
It’s a logical place to start. It’s also where a lot of companies get stuck, because in many cases, the issue isn’t the salesperson. It’s everything around them.
That’s the starting point for Robert Gerry’s session at this year’s Spring Management Conference in Oklahoma City, “The Independent Edge: How to Punch Above Your PSI and Accelerate Sales Growth.” In his view, sales performance is rarely driven by just one factor.
“I think good quality sales growth relies on three things,” Gerry says, referring to what he describes as three “bubbles”: the individual, the leadership, and the structure that supports them.
He also notes that the session won’t be a canned presentation. It’s designed to be conversational, with room to adjust based on the audience.
IT’S NOT JUST THE SALESPERSON
Sales conversations often start and end with the salesperson, but Gerry pushes back on that. In his view, performance comes down to three connected pieces that have to work together.
First is the individual. Talent still matters. Who you hire, how they think, and how they approach the role all play a part. Second is leadership. Sales teams need direction, accountability, and coaching. Without that, even strong salespeople can plateau.
But the third piece is the one that tends to get overlooked. The structure of the organization itself, including tools, support, and how the company is set up to actually deliver on what the sales team is promising.
“If the structure is not there,” Gerry says, “it doesn’t matter how good your sales talent is. It doesn’t matter how good your sales leadership is.” He describes it as a three-legged stool. If one part is off, the whole thing wobbles.
BUILT FROM EXPERIENCE
Gerry isn’t presenting a single playbook or a one-size-fits-all approach. The framework he’s bringing to SMC is built from a career spent observing what works and what doesn’t across different organizations, then applying those lessons in the situations in front of him. At the 2025 Annual Convention in Tampa, attendees heard first-hand how this framework helped build “Lampton 2.0.”
That perspective comes from time spent across sales, operations, and finance, which shows up in how he thinks about growth and execution.
“You can’t just make promises,” he says. “You need to be able to do what you say you’re going to do.”
COMPETING WITHOUT SCALE
The idea of “punching above your PSI” comes back to a familiar challenge to GAWDA members: independents competing against larger, better-resourced competitors. On paper, that may not be a fair fight. Larger companies have more capital, more infrastructure, and more reach.
So, the question becomes how do smaller or mid-sized distributors close that gap? For Gerry, it starts with understanding what independents can do that larger organizations can’t.
“You have to take advantage of what your team can bring that has value beyond what a larger company does,” he says. That often comes back to relationships: more direct communication, more trust, and more flexibility in how you respond to customers.
But it’s not just relationships on their own. Gerry describes it as “structure with freedom,” trust paired with high accountability. Salespeople need the flexibility to respond to what’s happening in the field, but they also need a system around them that supports those decisions and keeps them aligned.
WHERE TIME GETS LOST
One of the more practical areas Gerry plans to focus on is how sales teams spend their time. It’s a simple question, but one that doesn’t always get asked.
What are salespeople actually doing during the day? Where is their time going? And how much of that is actually moving the business forward?
“There’s nothing more valuable than time,” he says. For sales leaders, that means taking a hard look at priorities, not just activity, but effective activity. That includes account management, prospecting, and internal communication.
If time is going to the wrong places, growth slows down. For a lot of teams, even small changes here show up pretty quickly.
THE ROLE OF LEADERSHIP
While the session is centered on sales growth, Gerry makes it clear that the responsibility doesn’t sit only with the sales team. In many cases, the bigger question is whether the system around them is set up the right way.
That’s where leadership comes in. Part of the session will challenge attendees to take a hard look at where the issue actually sits. Is it the salesperson? Is it the manager? Or is it the structure itself?
It’s not always a comfortable conversation, but it’s one Gerry plans to push on.
THE HUMAN ADVANTAGE
The topic applies directly to this year’s SMC theme, The Human Advantage in the Digital Age. As larger companies continue to invest in more codified, rigid, and automated ways of selling, the role of relationships becomes even more important.
For independents, that’s still where the advantage is. “If you can do that at a high level,” Gerry says, “you should win.”
That doesn’t mean ignoring technology. But it does mean recognizing where personal interaction still carries weight, especially in a relationship-driven industry.
WHAT ATTENDEES WILL TAKE AWAY
“I’m probably not going to tell you anything you haven’t heard before,” Gerry says. “And you’ll probably only remember about 3% of it. But, if you leave this room with a better understanding of how these three pieces affect sales, and you can pick up a little polish in one of those areas, then maybe it was worth an hour.”
For companies looking to grow, that’s a practical place to start. In most cases, it’s not about rebuilding everything. It’s about getting a few key pieces aligned
Attend Robert Gerry’s presentation “The Independent Edge: How to Punch Above Your PSI and Accelerate Sales Growth” on Monday, May 18th from 10:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m.

